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Primate Elijah Babatunde Ayodele, founder of INRI Evangelical Spiritual Church in Lagos, spoke to DEBO OLADIMEJI on the need for President Goodluck Jonathan to seek the face of God to avert further bloodshed in the country, among others.

CAN the state of emergency in three northern states of Adamawa, Borno and Yobe bring an end to the Boko Haram insurgency?

The state of emergency has been foretold earlier before now. I am not granting this interview to criticise any government; I pray for the progress of the government, because we want peace in this country.

But the government is not taking the right direction. The amnesty for Boko Haram members is the greatest mistake President Goodluck Jonathan would make. The moment he does that, this government will be weak.

He shouldn’t grant them amnesty; they will go at the appropriate time, as they are going to be weakened.

All we are talking about now is for the President to seek God’s direction, instead of more of human direction.

The issue of state of emergency is not the solution; al-Qaeda is already in the country and there are still problem ahead. State of emergency is not the solution. He should not have declared the state of emergency; there are lots of ways to handle it. Insurgents are everywhere now, even in the southwest.

How should they tackle it?

That is the reason the President has to seek the face of God. I have giving him several solutions. He is going to sack some of his ministers any moment from now, but who are the people that he is going to put there? Has he consulted God? He believes more in the power of human beings than God.

Two, he had to really do something, because some of the people that killed former President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua spiritually are still in his cabinet and are the people that wanted to kill his wife.

There is going to be problem between the President and the governors, who are going to break into three to fight Jonathan’s government.

He should quickly go into total reconciliation and prays to avert impending dangers in his government.

I see confusion in the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) as well.

Everywhere, Nigeria needs serious prayers and to seek the face of God.

Jonathan has to be very careful, because there will be a lot of changes in the Villa. He must also pray for protection of his life, so that nothing happens to him, because they want to bomb his aircraft.

Jonathan should not get involved in any occultism. Nigeria is being ruled by darkness. Nigerians should pray for the Governor of Cross River State, Liyel Imoke, and the Governor of Enugu State, Sullivan Chime for protection, and as well as the First Lady of Nigeria.

I still foresee death among the governors. I foresee misunderstanding, breakage, insincerity and betrayal among them. Some of the big dignitaries will be disappointed and some of those who want to become governor will not. Some prominent politicians are going to pass away.

If Buhari contests the Presidency in 2015, he would be wasting that ticket. I see the formation of a new party, apart from what we have on ground, which would tackle the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP). PDP is in trouble.

The President will have some political miscalculations, which will also cause problems for the National Chairman of PDP, Bamanga Tukur, who will face many challenges.

There will be a lot of misconception in PDP. The All Progressive Congress (APC) is not a major opponent, because liars are part of APC. The main opposition will come up to fight PDP, except they don’t register new parties.

If Jonathan wins the second term, it is going to be a very slim and shaky victory. He should seek the face of God and not go by what people say to deceive him.

He should find solutions to Nigeria’s problems, otherwise Nigeria will be disintegrated into six geographical parts and six nations will come out of Nigeria. The issue of presidential pardon for Chief Diepreye Alamieyeseigha and amnesty for Boko Haram shouldn’t have come up this particular time.

We need prayers for the coming elections in Anambra, Osun and other states.

There is so much bloodshed in the country and we need to pray against it. Concerning the corruption aspects of it, Jonathan cannot fight corruption. No way!

Do you think Jonathan should run in 2015?

He should seek the face of God and should not listen to the voice of man.

Do you have any fear concerning the government?

I see the House of Representatives in disarray, because Speaker Aminu Tambuwal will be pushed into what will cause trouble for him and will be betrayed at the end.

He will face some political challenges and at the last minute, they will rubbish him. Some House members will face challenges of corruption and will set some other up.

I can tell you that not all these big men want Tambuwal to be there, so there is going to be a lot of challenges for him. He must be very careful, because they will want to plot against his political aspirations.

I don’t see this House making any serious impact. Let us pray that we don’t see an accident involving the Speaker. Let us pray that we don’t lose any of the Emirs.

What is the implication of volatile statements by politicians on the 2015 election?

We are moving towards disintegration; all these volatile statements should tell you that Nigeria is not one anymore.

God is telling me that we should pray, so that the situation will not lead into further bloodshed.

Do you foresee a resurgence of crisis in the Niger Delta?

The government of the day must be very careful, so that it will not lead Nigeria into disintegration. There are lots of things that the government of the day has to do at this moment, be it constitutional review or whatever.

I foresee controversial bills coming up in the National Assembly and both chambers must be very careful about this.

The government of Jonathan will not see peace until he seeks the face of God.

How far can the committee set up on amnesty for Boko Haram members go?

It is a waste of time and energy. Another splinter sect will come up after the amnesty. That is why I am warning this government to forget about amnesty.

How would the cleansing you are talking about happen?

I foresee a revolution in this country, if Jonathan does not do as directed.